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Paul Atreides, their 15-year-old son, who might be the messiah. Or a boy whose best bet for survival is to take advantage of thousands of years of cultural manipulation in preparation for a messiah. Or both. He was a good child and a good man," Duncan insisted. "And while he shaped the map of history, Paul was himself shaped by the events around him. Even so, in the end he refused to follow the path that he knew led to so much pain and ruin." Muad'Dib could indeed see the Future, but you must understand the limits of this power. Think of sight. You have eyes, yet cannot see without light. If you are on the floor of a valley, you cannot see beyond your valley. Just so, Muad'Dib could not always choose to look across the mysterious terrain. He tells us that a single obscure decision of prophecy, perhaps the choice of one word over another, could change the entire aspect of the future. He tells us "The vision of time is broad, but when you pass through it, time becomes a narrow door." And always, he fought the temptation to choose a clear, safe course, warning "That path leads ever down into stagnation." As I understand it, the final book in the Dune series written by Frank Herbert ends in a cliffhanger. Years later, Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson allegedly found some sort of manuscript hidden away by Frank Herbert and based off of information found in the manuscript they wrote two more books to finish off the original series: "Hunters of Dune" and "Sandworms of Dune". The entire exercise is a bait and switch: Chapterhouse ends famously with Marty & Daniel reflecting:

There's also another tidbit that takes up a huge portion of the text that is pretty much awesome, especially for some fanboy who has, at the time of this writing, read the original Dune 14 times. I've read through a couple of Reddit threads and the overall consensus for the original Dune series seems to be that the first book is a masterpiece, the next two are good, and the final three books go in a different direction that isn't for everybody. Paul Atreides has a unique dilemma: he is burdened with visions of his influence, knowing that millions of people are bound to die in his name and unable to do anything about it. Dune Messiahasks what comes nextfor the hero after they “win.” How do they rule? What does power do to them? Messiahis worth the read because it poses important philosophical questions that are essential in understanding the point Herbert is trying to make with this series. War, death, and tragedy…all of these things are inevitable aspects of human nature. We are all victims of fate and circumstance and our stories never just resolve in a neat and tidy way. Dunealready accomplishes that, but Messiahallows the reader to sit with the consequences of everything that happened in the first book. It explores the political ramifications of revolution, the familial divides within royalty, and the desperation to do right by the people you love without destroying them. Mother Commander Murbella is preparing the New Sisterhood for war against an unknown foe from the far reaches of space. Mysterious hunters are chasing the escaped no-ship containing the prophet Sheeana and her allies. And in desperation to save his own skin, Scytale, last of the great Tleilaxu Masters of old, comes up with an impossible plan… Sheeana did not seem convinced. "So many unknowns trouble me, where are we, who is chasing us . . ." Her voice trailed off, and then she said, "I will leave you to your studies. We are about to have another meeting to discuss our situation."After that, Herbert skips forward many more years for 1984’s Heretics of Dune. We’re introduced to a new villainous organization: the Honored Matres, Bene Gesserit who left the known galaxy and returned much changed. These two matriarchal groups continue to battle it out in 1985’s Chapterhouse: Dune, which ends on a cliffhanger, one that Herbert could not resolve; the author died in 1986. This is part one of a two part conclusion to the main Dune series based on notes and an outline by Frank Herbert. I've heard and experienced much trepidation regarding this, but thankfully, as long as I'm mostly focused on the ideas rather than the writing, I got through it without any wounds. :) Not just this book, but the entirety of the Brian Herbert body of work that relates to Dune. You may assume this is simply because Brian's writing style does absolutely no justice to his father's work. It doesn't of course -- accusing his writing of being "amateur grade" would be an undeserved insult to many talented amateur writers. Or maybe it's just because the series makes for a flat and unsatisfying ending, which is also the case. I hope I live a very long time, but I know that someday, like all human beings, I must die. Nobody knows what happens next. I hope there's an afterlife. If there is, and if, in the afterlife, you get to meet all the people who have lived before, throughout human history, then I hope I get to meet Frank Herbert. When I do, I will fall on my knees and beg Frank for his forgiveness, for having wasted any amount of my life reading this ridiculous, insipid trash posing as a Dune book.

s Children of Dunefollows the events of Dune Messiah. It revolves aroundtwins Leto II and Ghanima, the children of Paul and Chani, as they try and keep hold on power while avoiding the treacherous machinations of Irulan, Jessica, the Bene Gesserit, and their Aunt Alia. (Yes, Paul has a sister, you’ll learn more in Dune Part 2.) Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty. Any word from Duncan yet?" he asked, trying to divert her attention. "He was attempting a new navigation algorithm to get us away from—" At the end of CHAPTERHOUSE: DUNE – Frank Herbert’s final Dune novel – a ship carrying the ghola of Duncan Idaho, Sheeana (a young woman who can control sandworms), and a crew of various refugees, escapes into the uncharted galaxy, fleeing from the monstrous Honored Matres, dark counterparts to the Bene Gesserit Sisterhood. The nearly invincible Honored Matres have swarmed into the known universe, driven from their home by a terrifying, mysterious enemy. Paul Atreides was a year older than his "mother," his son Leto II was a precocious toddler, and his father Duke Leto had not yet been born. One thing is certain: never in history has there been a family such as this.AC/DC’s guitarist Angus Young was famously asked, “haven’t you produced 12 albums that sound alike?” To which Angus corrected, “No, we’ve produced 13 albums that sound exactly alike". Metallica front man James Hetfield was asked if they had sold out. His reply: “Yep, every night.” Though he lived in the body of a thirteen-year-old, it was his job to remain ready for everything, and never lower his guard. At the end of Chapterhouse: Dune-- Frank Herbert's final novel--a ship carrying the ghola of Duncan Idaho, Sheeana (a young woman who can control sandworms), and a crew of various refugees escapes into the uncharted galaxy, fleeing from the monstrous Honored Matres, dark counterparts to the Bene Gesserit Sisterhood. The nearly invincible Honored Matres have swarmed into the known universe, driven from their home by a terrifying, mysterious Enemy. As designed by the creative genius of Frank Herbert, the primary story of Hunters and Sandworms is the exotic odyssey of Duncan's no-ship as it is forced to elude the diabolical traps set by the ferocious, unknown Enemy. To strengthen their forces, the fugitives have used genetic technology from Scytale, the last Tleilaxu Master, to revive key figures from Dune's past--including Paul Muad'Dib and his beloved Chani, Lady Jessica, Stilgar, Thufir Hawat, and even Dr. Wellington Yueh. Each of these characters will use their special talents to meet the challenges thrown at them. This is the continuation of the epic struggle between the Honored Matres and the Face Dancers and the Bene Gesserit and an even greater foe that implacably hunts all of them down. And when I mean "They", I mean all of humanity. SO MUCH repeated expositi- *ahem* I mean.... "information". Do the writers think I have short term memory loss?! I don't know how many times I would read the same sentence as to why someone did this, why someone said that, why this was happening. Sometimes, it would say the same thing two different ways! Stop spoon feeding me, I get tired of having the same baby food people! Some would argue that this was to inform new readers of certain details that they otherwise missed from not reading previous novels but seriously, I don't think anyone could have missed anything from how many times these "important details" were mentioned!!!

Snider, John C. (August 2007). "Audiobook Review: Sandworms of Dune by Brian Herbert & Kevin J Anderson". SciFiDimensions.com (Internet Archive). Archived from the original on May 13, 2008 . Retrieved July 20, 2011. The first part of Denis Villeneuve’s movie adaptation was received exceptionally well by both audiences and critics, indicating that Dune may have finally achieved a breakthrough in pop culture to match Tolkien. This was helped by a star-studded and devoted cast made up of Timothée Chalamet, Rebecca Ferguson, Zendaya, Oscar Isacc, Javier Bardem, Josh Brolin, and many more. This is sure to be repeated with the release of Part Two on November 3, 2023. The film will see the addition of actors like Florence Pugh as Princess Irulan, Austin Butler as Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen, Christopher Walken as Shaddam IV, and more. But new fans coming to the books by way of Villeneuve's films may struggle to find the proper starting place. There are many more Dune novels than there are for Middle-earth, stretching in two directions in time out from the original Dune book of 1965. Different books cover different conflicts, each with some relation to one another, and then there are all those strange names and terminology to keep straight. In the meantime, the old Bashar's fighters had created a diversion so the no-ship could escape, carrying Odrade, the Duncan ghola, and Sheeana, who had tempted the ancient sandworm into the vessel's cavernous cargo hold. Soon after the ship flew to safety, Rakis was destroyed—and that worm became the last of its kind. My biggest gripe with this book, if you can believe it, is that it's damn near impossible to take it and the authors claims serious that this was faithfully based on Frank's notes and outline when it has NUMEROUS references and tie-ins to their completely unnecessary prequels. Stupid characters and references to their books are thrown in left and right, and the worst part is the surprise "reveal" of the Unknown Enemy who turns out to be...the robots/machines from their prequels! So I'm supposed to believe Frank intended the villains of Dune 7 to be two characters KJA and BH would create 20 years later? I know Muad'Dib had prescience, but apparently Frank Herbert did, too...amazing. A distanza di 20 anni, suo figlio Brian tenta la folle impresa provando a terminare l'opera del padre. Immaginate di veder ritoccare la Gioconda o la Cappella Sistina con una bomboletta spray.One of the themes of the book is also the war between the sexes. Many of the organizations in Dune are single sex, and they have a contempt for the worth of the other sex. It is really dated, and frankly offensive.

Brian Herbert, the son of Dunecreator Frank Herbert, continued his father’s work after his death. The younger Herbert, along with Kevin J. Anderson, has released 21 novels, nine comic books, and many video and board games within the Duneiverse. 2006’s Hunters of Duneand 2007’s Sandworms of Dunedirectly follow up on the cliffhanger from Chapterhouse. Liptak, Andrew (September 13, 2016). "The authors of Navigators of Dune on building an epic, lasting world". The Verge . Retrieved July 24, 2019. I could go on and on, but it's pretty annoying to have to think about it all again after reading it. The characters are wooden, two-dimensional, and don't act or speak anything like they did in the previous books. The dialogue is very lame and simplistic, and when it tries to get deep and meaningful, it fails miserably. (How many bloody times can they use the word "esoteric" in this book? Do they even know what it means?). The plot goes nowhere and when it tries to progress, it's so cliched and predictable that the "surprises" are not really that at all. There's no explanation for *why* Baron Harkonnen's ghola is so evil and depraved...he just *is* (and again, very out of character and 2-D). The good guys are good "just because," and again, they have none of the depth or complexity from the previous books. KJA and BH also rely heavily on scatalogical and gross-out humor or prose, which again is completely out of character with how Frank Herbert wrote. One character tells another they'll end up as "excrement on the forest floor." The Baron Harkonnen is described as making disgusting body noises. Uxtal, a minor character who, for some reason, features in over half of this book, meets his end by being eaten by sligs and shit out after they're done. The renegade Honored Matres milk sperm out of comatose Tleilaxu and no reason is given other than "revenge." It's all so stupid, and I could go on and on with examples like this, but you get the picture. To paraphrase Roger Ebert: I hated this book. Hated hated hated hated hated this book. Hated it. Hated every simpering stupid vacant reader-insulting moment of it. Uxtal has been forced to use Tleilaxu axlotl tank technology to produce the adrenaline-enhancing drug used by Honored Matres. Khrone tasks Uxtal to make a ghola of Baron Vladimir Harkonnen, which is as sociopathic as the original. Khrone obtains the blood of Paul Atreides and has Uxtal make a ghola of Paul; he intends to use the ghola of the Baron to twist Paul's ghola into a weapon for Daniel and Marty's conquest of the universe. Later, Guild Navigator Edrik comes to Tleilax seeking Uxtal's knowledge of axlotl tanks; the Navigator fears his kind's obsolescence when the Ixian navigation technology becomes available. He seeks a tank-based source of spice to break the Bene Gesserit monopoly, but everyone believes that technology died with the Tleilaxu Masters. Eventually he accesses the genetic material of deceased Master Waff, and creates several Waff gholas, hoping to recover the lost technology.

Another annoying bit, though I may be dead wrong, is that the interstellar travel is expressly described numerous times as folding space, which requires spice to accomplish, unless we have fancy & forbidden Ixian machinery or stuff from Beyond the Scattering. IIRC, however, Dune did not deploy folding space at all, but rather explained that the the navigators needed the spice for the purpose of developing sufficiently prescient awareness that they might pilot the Guild ships at FTL speeds. It's an irritating revision that essentially adopts David Lynch's ultra vires film. Chapterhouse ends in a mighty cliffhanger and these books do resolve that, but they do it sloppily. This story is by turns boringly drawn out, painfully on-the-nose, and filled with exposition. In this way, Hunters is like a lot of modern science fiction, more concerned with the things thought up than the story being told. On the no-ship, rebel Bene Gesserit attempt to murder the Leto II ghola, but are foiled when he transforms into a sandworm. The Paul ghola steals and consumes an overdose of spice in an attempt to remember his past, but instead has a vision of being stabbed by an evil version of himself. After being discovered by the Bene Gesserit, he concludes that he has regained prescience. Sheeana has visions that suggest the use of the gholas is dangerous, and halts the program until she knows more. Whatever. The Masters should've known we would gather enough of them one day to make our own decisions about our own future." (loc. cit. at 432)



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